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Euthanizing Fish Without Clove Oil
MaximumRide14
- #1
I was keeping an eye on a platy that wasn't looking too good. I come home today and she is laying on the substrate behind some plants. She is barely breathing but I honestly just want to take her suffering away. However I don't have clove oil, I have normal cloves though if there's a way to do that. I don't want anything violent like cutting her head off. Any ideas?
Fashooga
- #2
I guess you can put some tank water in a cup and put the fish in there and put it into the fridge. I've done that before, though people do get upset about it, but it is what it is.
GrayGray4231
- #3
That is not human at all!!
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #4
I guess you can put some tank water in a cup and put the fish in there and put it into the fridge. I've done that before, though people do get upset about it, but it is what it is.
I heated some clove pieces in some water, in thinking I'll add that slowly in a container until she passes.
That is not human at all!!
What do you mean?
GrayGray4231
- #5
Humane*That is not human at all!!
Kyleena696
- #6
Other than clove oil or cutting its head off, you can freeze the fish. I think alcohol also euthanizes them, but I'm not 100% sure on that, it might just put them to sleep before using clove oil to euthanize.
GrayGray4231
- #7
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #8
But clove oil is humane. I didn't want to do anything that would make me feel guilty
Buganjimo
- #9
It's better than letting it suffer. It's short and easy.
GrayGray4231
- #10
I am talking about cutting it's head off..But clove oil is humane. I didn't want to do anything that would make me feel guilty
Kyleena696
- #11
I personally use ice cold water with ice cubes and vodka and once the fish has stopped moving I add a bunch of clove oil.
I would actually consider that the most humane since it would be instantaneous and painless. As long as it's done quickly and correctly of course; having chopped the heads off a few animals I know it's not as easy as it looks in any way.
I am talking about cutting it's head off..
I would actually consider that the most humane since it would be instantaneous and painless. As long as it's done quickly and correctly of course; having chopped the heads off a few animals I know it's not as easy as it looks in any way.
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #12
Here is the poor fish. Still breathing, curved spine, very weak. I'll slowly add in the clove mixture a drop at a time.
Fashooga
- #13
It's quick and painless to the fish. Grab a knife and come down on it very quick. It's a common practice in shops that sell fish, like Chinese markets.I am talking about cutting it's head off..
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #14
I would actually consider that the most humane since it would be instantaneous and painless. As long as it's done quickly and correctly of course; having chopped the heads off a few animals I know it's not as easy as it looks in any way.
I guess I just can't do it. Hopefully this works though. She stirs a little when I put a drop in but I hope it isn't hurting her. The clove water mixture is still a little warm
Kyleena696
- #15
Here is the poor fish. Still breathing, curved spine, very weak. I'll slowly add in the clove mixture a drop at a time.
Poor thing. I'm sorry that you need to even ask this question.
Kellye8498
- #16
You aren't going to get clove oil in a concentration high enough to do anything from dried cloves. Just isn't going to happen. You can get clove oil from GNC if you have one near you.
Kyleena696
- #17
I guess I just can't do it. Hopefully this works though. She stirs a little when I put a drop in but I hope it isn't hurting her. The clove water mixture is still a little warm
I've never done it with fish either, just clove oil and cold water. Mine did the same, I think it's more of an automatic response from the nervous system rather than a pain response.
GrayGray4231
- #18
Yea, that won't work. It might even cause some pain.
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #19
You aren't going to get clove oil in a concentration high enough to do anything from dried cloves. Just isn't going to happen. You can get clove oil from GNC if you have one near you.
I'm kind of sure it's working. She isn't breathing much now.
Demeter
- #20
If you think about it, the fastest and least stressful thing to do is destroy the brain. Net the fish, crush it's head. Just cutting the head off will not kill the fish immediately, the brain is still intact and working. The only time I killed a fish was with a knife to the brains, as crushing an adult African peacock's head is a bit harder than with small fish. Quick and easy, the fish was already so out of it I could catch her with my hands, she didn't even flop around.
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #21
If you think about it, the fastest and least stressful thing to do is destroy the brain. Net the fish, crush it's head. Just cutting the head off will not kill the fish immediately, the brain is still intact and working. The only time I killed a fish was with a knife to the brains, as crushing an adult African peacock's head is a bit harder than with small fish. Quick and easy, the fish was already so out of it I could catch her with my hands, she didn't even flop around.
Sorry, I just don't think I can do that.
I may do a thread about the symptoms of this Platy to determine the cause of death. I have other platies in the tank too so I hope it isn't contagious
GrayGray4231
- #22
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #23
I don't know, I feel like that's directly harming the fish. I would just feel bad about it.
This platy has just passed away. Rip
Rtessy
- #24
I'm sorry you have to go through this, losing a fish is always difficult. I'm the same way, even though crushing the head or destroying the brain is faster, there's no way I could bring myself to do it. For me, it has more to do with the thought of destroying my pet and their body, where clove oil doesn't show anything externally, they just drift off.
Kellye8498
- #25
If you're going to put an animal to sleep you should not start until you have everything you need. This is like giving someone the needle and deciding to try putting cinnamon in instead of poison to see if it will kill them. Dried cloves don't have the proper amount of oil. You need around 12-20 drops total and even an entire bottle of cloves won't give you that. You can't even be sure you are getting any oil at all. Not worth hurting a sick fish more. Just go buy the oil. It's not hard to find.
CraniumRex
- #26
HI - I have read a scientific study that says lidocaine hydrochloride at a concentration of 400 mg/L is a gentler way to euthanize even than the typical MS-222 or Finquel often used in labs.
You can find lidocaine hydrochloride in things like toothache remedies, though many are Benzocaine which is not the same. Lidocaine is also known as xylocaine and can be found in a jelly form OTC at some drugstores. The pharmacist might be able to help work out a 400 mg/L dosage soluble in water.
Do not use alcohol (burns gills) or freezing (unless you had dry ice, unlikely). These forms are just too slow and not humane at all.
I'm so sorry for your loss
Buganjimo
- #27
Rip, atleast she didn't suffer too much. Maybe get some clove oil next time? I'm sorry your fish died, it never does get easier when they die.
Kellye8498
- #28
The first dose is to put her to sleep and the second dose is to make sure she doesn't wake up. It would be horrible if you thought she was gone and tossed her only to have her wake up.
Triston Wasmund
- #29
I'm sorry for your loss/future loss. It looks like you have gotten the answers you need. Just going to put my opinion, not like it matters, but I wouldn't ever put something down. Only because, you never know if that animal has a chance or not. You'd be surprised at what different animals are capable of. I'm saying...it's not like you can predict the future or not on whether something will die. It's all part of God's plan. Don't know if this makes sense or not, kind of hard to explain. Just my 2 cents in
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #30
Rip, atleast she didn't suffer too much. Maybe get some clove oil next time? I'm sorry your fish died, it never does get easier when they die.
I will definitely get clove oil in the future. It should work much faster and be much more efficient.
The first dose is to put her to sleep and the second dose is to make sure she doesn't wake up. It would be horrible if you thought she was gone and tossed her only to have her wake up.
I waited until she wait unresponsive and until I could barely see her breathing anymore. Then I waited about half an hour. After that I couldn't see her breathing so I assumed I had been safe.
Kellye8498
- #31
That could have just meant she was anesthetized. Doesn't mean she got enough to kill her. You can't know without proper dosing which is why I kept suggesting you get the oil and do it the right way.I waited until she wait unresponsive and until I could barely see her breathing anymore. Then I waited about half an hour. After that I couldn't see her breathing so I assumed I had been safe.
GrayGray4231
- #32
Don't toss her until your sure she is gone...
Kellye8498
- #33
I will suggest getting the oil anyway since you may need it again someday. It's only 3-4 dollars and is a good investment. You can also use it for tooth pain in humans so you don't have to worry about waste.
MaximumRide14
- Thread Starter
- #34
I'm sorry for your loss/future loss. It looks like you have gotten the answers you need. Just going to put my opinion, not like it matters, but I wouldn't ever put something down. Only because, you never know if that animal has a chance or not. You'd be surprised at what different animals are capable of. I'm saying...it's not like you can predict the future or not on whether something will die. It's all part of God's plan. Don't know if this makes sense or not, kind of hard to explain. Just my 2 cents in
Thanks. The reason why I chose to euthanize was because over the course of this week I had seen her get weaker and her spine get all curved. Her color changed into something much deeper at the tail and I could hardly see the Mickey Mouse sign. After I came home it had seemed her health nose dived quite quickly. She lay on the substrate and breathed shallowly, only occasionally gasping for air as she weakly flopped around. I had noticed that she wasn't interested in food but unfortunately her health got too low too fast. Euthanasia was something I had read about but never seemed to be an option until now. I didn't want her to be like that until she died, because once a fish looks that bad and can't get themselves off the gravel then it seems like they have gone too far to be cured. I just did what I thought was best.
GrayGray4231
- #35
Or you can dissolve Orajel in water and put them in it.
pugletfan
- #36
I'm sorry about your fish. Hugs ! . I'm thinking I should get some clove oil to have on hand just in case I need it sometime....
Rtessy
- #37
I think you did what you had to given the circumstances and what was available to you
TexasGuppy
- #38
How would a fish wake up in the trash? If it wasn't dead completely, being out of the water would have killed it?
GrayGray4231
- #39
How would a fish wake up in the trash? If it wasn't dead completely, being out of the water would have killed it?
Kellye8498
- #40
Often people euthanize and then flush the fish. Then the fish is in water the entire time and it could easily wake up.
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